{"id":2004607,"date":"2011-01-14T14:46:36","date_gmt":"2011-01-14T13:46:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.luxsure.fr\/2011\/01\/14\/lunch-with-karl-lagerfeld-to-discuss-the-gods-by-frederic-beigbeder\/"},"modified":"2026-04-15T10:43:13","modified_gmt":"2026-04-15T08:43:13","slug":"lunch-with-karl-lagerfeld-to-discuss-the-gods-by-frederic-beigbeder","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.luxsure.fr\/en\/2011\/01\/14\/lunch-with-karl-lagerfeld-to-discuss-the-gods-by-frederic-beigbeder\/","title":{"rendered":"Lunch with Karl Lagerfeld to discuss the gods by Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Beigbeder"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As part of the national launch of the 2010 Pirelli calendar, here&#8217;s an interview between Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Beigbeder and Karl Lagerfeld.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.luxsure.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/pirelli4.jpg\" data-rel=\"penci-gallery-image-content\" ><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.luxsure.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/pirelli4-300x199.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"pirelli4\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-17747 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.luxsure.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/pirelli4-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.luxsure.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/pirelli4.jpg 550w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 300px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 300\/199;\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<strong>Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Beigbeder:<\/strong> -Why did you choose Greek and Roman mythology as your theme?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Karl Lagerfeld<\/strong>: -Because it&#8217;s my favorite religion: a god for every department. I&#8217;m a polytheist, all current religions are recent, I prefer this mythology without hell, without sin (this brake on happiness), without forgiveness.We need to return to a certain disciplined beauty of Antiquity. Simone Weil said that Jesus was a direct descendant of Prometheus, which caused a scandal at the time. I love goddesses because they were the first liberated women, entitled to everything. Divinities and muses are feminists!    <\/p>\n<p><strong>F.B:<\/strong> -When did your fascination with the myths of Antiquity begin?<\/p>\n<p><strong>K.L<\/strong>: -The first two books I read at the age of 6 were Homer&#8217;s Iliad and the Nibelungen. Well, the Germanic tales scared me, but Homer had a huge influence on me, he completely grounded me. What&#8217;s great about ancient paganism is that the gods are multiple, souls circulate, there are heroes, demigods, genies and nymphs&#8230; Humans were less distant from the gods than in monotheistic religions. I didn&#8217;t know at the time that I would become a god myself! (laughs)    <\/p>\n<p><strong>F.B<\/strong>: -Yes, but be careful: the gods are just mortals, only slightly improved! (laughs) So the purpose of these photographs is to found a new religion? I&#8217;d just like to say that, having leafed through it, this calendar has given me faith in your Olympus, and I&#8217;m an instant convert!   <\/p>\n<p><strong>K.L<\/strong>: -Joking aside, what&#8217;s modern about mythology is the love of youth, the cult of the body, desire assumed without divine punishment, and the permanent homage paid to Nature. There&#8217;s an ethic of beauty in Greco-Roman civilization that we&#8217;ve lost today. <\/p>\n<p><strong>F.B<\/strong>: -Before being chosen by Pirelli for this 2011 edition, were you familiar with the Pirelli calendars?<\/p>\n<p><strong>K.L<\/strong>: -Yes, especially Avedon&#8217;s (1995), which I really liked. It was cultured but not just ass! Sexy, simple. I&#8217;m also a fan of Sarah Moon, who was the first to show breasts in &#8217;72. She emanates great poetry.      <\/p>\n<p><strong>F.B<\/strong>:-What does Pirelli mean to you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>K.L<\/strong>: -It&#8217;s a tire manufacturer that built its reputation on these calendars that you can&#8217;t buy, which gives them a sense of mystery. It was viral marketing before its time. At first, they did it for garages, for truckers! But the object quickly became an artistic reference.   <\/p>\n<p><strong>F.B<\/strong>: -Tell me about the three-day shoot. Where was it?   <\/p>\n<p><strong>K.L<\/strong>: -In my studio in Paris, rue de Lille. I chose friends to pose with; I only wanted people who were very comfortable with me. I made a list of bodies I could show, and I refuse to undress people who don&#8217;t agree!<br \/>\nAnd there are no minors!<\/p>\n<p><strong>F.B<\/strong>: -Why the black background?<\/p>\n<p><strong>K.L<\/strong>: -I think it enhances nudity, the contrast emphasizes bodily beauty.<\/p>\n<p><strong>F.B<\/strong>:-And why shoot in black and white rather than color?<\/p>\n<p><strong>K.L<\/strong>: -It was refreshing, a bit of black and white for a change from my illustrious predecessors, and after all I&#8217;m black and white in life!<\/p>\n<p><strong>F.B<\/strong>:-Is it true that the models become particularly &#8220;open-minded&#8221; during the Pirelli calendar sessions?<\/p>\n<p><strong>K.L<\/strong>: -My studio is antiseptic, it&#8217;s very work-at-home. There&#8217;s nothing fishy lying around. What I liked about the Greek myths is that they don&#8217;t need to get excited with fishnet stockings and frills, it&#8217;s carnal without fuss. Helmut Newton did stilettos and garter belts better than I did.   <\/p>\n<p><strong>F.B<\/strong>: -Why Julianne Moore as Hera?<\/p>\n<p><strong>K.L<\/strong>: -I absolutely wanted an actress to play Zeus&#8217; wife and the mother of the Olympian gods. Julianne is a beautiful woman, more matronly than the girls under the olive trees. She&#8217;s a dear friend. With me, she knew it was zero risk, that there would be no parallel production to sell under the table!   <\/p>\n<p><strong>F.B:<\/strong> -Are there no secret shots for private use?<\/p>\n<p><strong>K.L<\/strong>: -Look Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric, it&#8217;s not part of mythology. Look at ancient statues, they&#8217;re never naughty, except in Pompeii, but that was in a brothel! <\/p>\n<p><strong>F.B<\/strong>: -You specially created objects, jewelry and accessories for the photo shoot.<\/p>\n<p><strong>K.L<\/strong>: -St\u00e9phane Lubrina and George Cortina made the bracelets, weapons and shields.<br \/>\nPeter Philips glued gold leaf to the breasts. I didn&#8217;t want it to look like a joke or a theatrical costume. So I designed the necklaces, the golden sexes, the bracelets that become tree bark, an owl, a Plexiglas helmet&#8230;  <\/p>\n<p><strong>F.B<\/strong>: -Would you have liked to live in antiquity?<\/p>\n<p><strong>K.L<\/strong>: -Who wouldn&#8217;t like immortality with a perfect physique?<\/p>\n<p>Interview conducted on October 15, 2010 at Karl Lagerfeld&#8217;s home in Paris.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As part of the national launch of the 2010 Pirelli calendar, here&#8217;s an interview between Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Beigbeder and Karl Lagerfeld. 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